Jesse Kelly & Nicole Shanahan Transhumanism, Kamala’s Plan to Take Your Guns, and How to Save Texas

Don't let the noise of the world convince you that you're alone in your beliefs; most people share more in common than they realize.

Thank you, thank you for having me! Ah, I love being here. Thank you! Oh, I know you; I feel like I know a lot of people here. I have so many relatives in Texas. No, it's true! Some of them are from here; others fled as the rest of the country collapsed. But I'm always here. It's so wonderful! I mean, I guess no matter where I was, if I was in Bon New Jersey, I'd pretend to like it, but I actually do love Texas. I don't have to pretend, and I'm sure there's great stuff going on in Bon Deep. You don't even know where that is, do you? Good!

Anyway, thank you so much for having me. We have protesters outside, which I love. No, it's amazing! Someone just told me that we've been on the road; this is our ninth night. We're going coast to coast, visiting 16 different cities. The idea was, you know, you want to see the country that you love, that you were born in, that you're going to die in, and that you really care about. But also, they can't censor a live event.

There's something about being in a room full of people you agree with that is so great; it's like a spa treatment. It's incredible! If you spend your life experiencing the rest of the country through your phone, your television, or your radio—the eight people who still read newspapers—you really get such a distorted sense. And it's not an accident, of course. They're trying to make you dislike your country and have contempt for it, and feel hopeless about it. But above all, they're trying to make you feel crazy, like you're the only person who feels the way that you do.

That this is bizarre, you're thinking this is bizarre. You know you're lying; you're insane. And that, I think, is a normal person's reaction to the news, particularly recently. Of course, they're flipping it around on you and being like, "No, no, everything's fine; you're crazy!" And by the way, after a while, I was reminded of how the Soviets used to do this to any sort of dissenter. They would put him in a mental hospital, like, "You're crazy; you don't think the experiment's working? It's working!"

The truth is, they can kind of convince you that there's something wrong with you or that you're an extremist or something because you think what they're doing is nuts. That's one of the real reasons I wanted to get out and just be in rooms full of people who are not crazy at all. They're the most normal people in the country, which, by the way, is the whole country. I mean, the percentage of people who are on board with the things that are happening now is tiny.

The polls don't reflect reality. I mean, the polls are a reflection of a bunch of things. Part of it is party identification; part of it is fear—convincing people that, you know, your side may be terrible, but the other side is really dangerous. And part of them are just absolutely fake. I mean, they're not even real; they're designed to discourage you and to tell you a story that's not rooted in reality.

But whatever the cause of bad polling, it doesn't measure the truth about the country, which is that most people are not mad at each other at all. Most people have more in common than they don't. They live here; they're Americans. They have basically 99% of things in common, and they're not mad at each other. I know that because I always think of myself as the most hated person in America. There’s probably some truth in that, but you know, when I show up at your Quiznos or something for my unhealthy lunch, no one ever says anything nasty to me. Everyone's nice! "We love you!" Well, I love you too! Were you at Quiznos? I think I saw you; you were getting the turkey.

But it's funny; it really is a lie. People in this country are not actually, at an individual level, divided by race, sex, or party ID to anywhere near the extent that they tell you at all. Like, who is actually for, I don't know, inflation or no borders or castrating your kids and having no grandchildren? Like, no one is for that! Nine rich ladies in LA are for that, and everybody else hates it. That's just true, and you're just reminded of that when you travel.

That's why I do wish I had had a chance to meet the protesters. I kind of like protesters; they're just interesting. When you confront them in person, they never, you know, have the stones to get mad at you. That was a little embarrassing. "Are you calling me a Nazi?" Oh no, not you; that's my picture on your sign! Well, I didn't...

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People aren't as divided as they seem; most just want to live their lives without the constant political drama.

It is a lie that people in this country are actually divided at an individual level by race, sex, or party ID to anywhere near the extent that they tell you. For example, who is actually for inflation, no borders, or castrating your kids and having no grandchildren? The truth is that no one is for that, except for perhaps nine rich ladies in LA. Everybody else hates it, and that’s just true. You are reminded of this when you travel, which is why I do wish I had a chance to meet the protesters. I kind of like protesters; they are just interesting. When you confront them in person, they never have the stones to get mad at you.

For instance, when they say, “Are you calling me a Nazi?” and you respond, “Oh no, not you; that’s my picture on your sign,” they often reply, “Well, I didn’t see that.” It’s just so funny. I always have the exact same thought because, you know, you try to be reflective. When people call you names, I think it’s really important to ask yourself honestly, in some quiet place—the shower is a good spot—“Is that true? Am I what they’re calling me?” You don’t want to be the things they’re calling you, and you certainly don’t want to let them turn you into those things. This is also part of their goal: to upset you so much that you become the hater they claim you are.

I have been through this process for many years, where they call you something, and I actually try to take stock: “Am I that person? I don’t want to be that person. Am I that person?” The one thing that always makes me laugh is when, and I’m sure every person in this room has been called it, they say, “You’re an extremist.” I think, you know, whatever else I am—a dessert eater, some other unattractive qualities, I’ll admit it—but whatever else I am, I’m the opposite of an extremist. I hate change. My parents got divorced; I’m totally opposed to change.

I honestly have a really clear vision of America that doesn’t strike me as extremist; it strikes me as the opposite. I liked America in 1985 very well. I’m sure a lot of people in this room aren’t old enough to remember 1985, and those of you who aren’t may think, “Well, did they have electricity and air conditioning and air travel then? Was the country segregated?” No, it was awesome. There was very little conversation about the things that divided us; there was a ton of conversation about fun, irrelevant things like sports and the weather—things that really mattered.

In a healthy society, a happy society, people’s focus is not entirely on politics. Of course, politics is what you do to make the things that are important possible, like your marriage, your children, your religious faith, and your job. Politics is the price you pay for the freedom to continue doing what you want to do, to live your life without bothering people. In 1985, most people lived lives like that. I never heard of a family in 1985 that was divided by politics. Everybody had some sort of crazy, organic peanut butter aunt who had never gotten over the 60s. She was sort of nice, with long, complicated earrings and a faint aroma of incense and marijuana. It wasn’t clear what it was, but you knew it was a musky scent.

She was pretty enthused about the whales and wasn’t fully in touch with things like shaving her body hair. But you know what? She wasn’t mad at you, and you weren’t mad at her. You considered her faintly hilarious. She would sit in an Indian style and ask you about your feelings, and you’d be like, “Okay.” There was no sense in which families, as I recall—and I grew up in California, which I’m embarrassed to say to Texans since you’ve been invaded by them—there was no sense in which politics was the most important thing at all.

At that time, and this is the difference in 1985, we had leaders—some of whom I agreed with, some of whom I didn’t—but none of them took it as their personal mission to divide the country. They led and made people hate each other. That would be unthinkable in 1985, and in fact, it would be unthinkable to any normal person. The last thing you ever do is divide the people you’re in charge of. If you’re a parent, you...

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True leadership is about unity, not division. The greatest legacy you can leave is the love between your children, not material wealth.

By them, you should have built a wall. Actually, on your Western, no, I'm serious, you should have. You should have, but you didn't. Man, they're everywhere, and I can spot them. You know your own people.

Anyway, there was no sense in which politics was the most important thing at all because at the time—this is the difference—in 1985, we had leaders, some of whom I agreed with and some of whom I didn't. However, none of them took it as their personal mission to divide the country. They led and made people hate each other. That would be unthinkable in 1985, and in fact, it would be unthinkable to any normal person. The last thing you ever do is divide the people you're in charge of.

If you're a parent, you know this. If you're a parent, your deepest desire, your secret dream, the thing that motivates you above all, is the idea that your children will love each other. Because you're going to be gone. As I heard someone say the other day, we lose our parents way too soon, and we find our spouses and our children way too late. But it's our siblings who are with us from beginning to end, and that's true. Every parent knows that's true.

The measure of a happy family, I've always thought, is the degree to which the children—the siblings, the brothers and sisters—love each other and are united. That's what you leave behind, much more than any real estate portfolio or money that you pass on. It is the love between your offspring. That's such a natural desire, but it's true in every human organization.

The leader's job is twofold: one, to be courageous, because the bravest man is the leader, regardless of title. It doesn't matter; bravery is the indispensable quality of a leader. Period. The second is the unity of the people you lead. That's true in your office, it's true in your platoon if you serve in the military, and it's above all true in your family. Of course, it's true at scale in a country of 350 million people.

It takes an extraordinary kind of leader—an evil leader, by definition—to set out to intentionally divide the people he leads. Period. And that is what we've seen. You may be wondering, "Well, wait a second, aren't you getting to motive? How can you know the motive of our leaders?" Because you can't see their hearts; only God knows what they really think. That is a fair rebuttal.

Now, no one actually said that; I'm anticipating your criticism ahead of time. I've changed my thinking on this. Since I've been in journalism my whole life, I've always sort of kept away from guessing people's motives because, honestly, you can't know. But I have decided in middle age that actually, I can know. I know motive by result. The result is the goal over time.

In other words, if you keep doing something and winding up in a certain place, you meant to get to that place. No matter what you tell me, it doesn't matter what story you tell me or what story you tell yourself. All I care about is the effect because I judge the tree by its fruits. You can tell me you're a lemon tree, but if pears come out, I think you're lying to yourself or to me or both. It doesn't matter; you're not a lemon tree; you're a pear tree.

So, if the effect of your policies is to divide the people you lead and make them hate each other and divide the essential organization in human civilization—in life, which is the family—you meant to do that. And there's nothing more evil than that.

When they sent us home for Thanksgiving three years ago and told us on television, "Your job when you get home for Thanksgiving—a sacred secular holiday, the only holiday that all Americans share, actually, regardless of religious faith—is to give thanks for this nation that we inherited." When they sent us home from cable news to Thanksgiving, they told us explicitly, "You go home and you find your uncle, your grandmother, your dad, whoever's not with the program, and you lecture them about whatever: Black Lives Matter, the vaccine, it doesn't matter—COVID, the mask, social distancing." The pretext was irrelevant; the point was they worked intentionally to turn children against their parents, to turn Americans against their neighbors, to turn races against each other.

They've been on that program for 60 years, and it still hasn't worked. Most Americans do not hate each other on the basis of their race. Boy, have they failed on that program.

I've been called a racist a million times, and yet I have never, one time in all the years I've lived in this country, which is 55, ever been attacked by...

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The real battle isn't just about race or politics; it's about the unseen forces shaping our perceptions and relationships.

When you go home, you might find your uncle, your grandmother, your dad, or whoever's not with the program. You may feel compelled to lecture them about whatever—Black Lives Matter, the VAC, COVID, the mask, social distancing. The pretext is irrelevant; the point is that they worked intentionally to turn children against their parents, to turn Americans against their neighbors, and to turn races against each other. They have been on that program for 60 years, and it still hasn't worked. Most Americans do not hate each other on the basis of their race. Boy, have they failed on that.

I've been called a racist a million times, yet I have never, in all the years I've lived in this country—which is 55—ever been attacked by someone of a different race because I'm a racist. Not one person has ever said that to me. The only person who's ever called me that was a private equity wife on a ski lift in Jackson Hole. I'm serious. I was just trying to enjoy my elk chili at the Four Seasons between runs. The only people who've ever called me a racist are rich ladies. I'm just being honest with you. I always say the same thing: "No, I don't like you." Actually, that doesn't make me racist; it just makes me discerning.

You sort of wonder, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I will cop to bigotry. That's my bigotry. Sorry, I'll admit it. It actually makes me feel guilty to admit that there's a group of people I just don't like as a category, but it is private equity wives. So sorry. Now that I've gotten this like an AA meeting, I'm just getting it all out there. I'm just telling you the truth; those are my sins. But you sort of think to yourself, what happened? What was the change? The truth is, for whatever reason—and I think it's clearly a productive spiritual battle in the unseen world, which is totally real—I didn't grow up thinking this way.

I should also say, since we're being honest with each other, I am from La Jolla, California. Yeah, who said that? That's not a town where the spiritual battle was much discussed. We had one topic of conversation in La Jolla, which was the weather—which never changed, by the way. It’s sort of amazing. I never realized it at the time, but people in San Diego County in 1980 could talk for like all day about the weather. The conversation would go something like, "You know, it's 75 and partly cloudy." "Yeah, but this afternoon it's going up to 77 and sunny, and then it's going to go back down to about 74." This would go on for 12 months.

That was the only topic you could bring up. It was very sort of open-minded. I mean, if you decided to become a lesbian nun or, you know, there was nothing too weird for my neighbors. The one thing you couldn't mention was anything transcendent. For example, you were not allowed to die where I grew up. No dying there. No, no one ever died at all. If someone did die, you could never talk about it. That was very offensive. People didn't die; they just got in the car and drove to Palm Springs, and you just never saw them again. The presumption was they were on vacation. You never acknowledged that they died because that would raise the question of, what happens next? Nobody wanted to talk about that.

So, I did not grow up in a world where the spiritual battle was discussed or acknowledged in any sense at all. I've come to this understanding by watching empirically, on the basis of evidence. It's just so clearly true that human beings are being acted upon at all times by forces that they can't see, and this has been the case since the beginning of recorded history. All of history is about that battle. Every religion, all literature, all art—really, only people who grew up in La Jolla, California, in about 1980 didn’t know that. So, it’s like a huge shock to me.

When I talked to my cousins last night in Houston about this, they were just nodding. I was like, nobody finds that unbelievable? They were like, "Yeah, duh. We went to Second Baptist; we knew that." So, some people have really changed. What is so striking, and what I want the substance of tonight to be about, is how so many other people have changed in different ways. That's a thing that nobody ever acknowledges—or doesn't acknowledge enough—and that I don't acknowledge to myself enough.

So, if you're like me and you've been paying attention over the last several years, you might be wondering, what is this?

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I didn't know that, so it's like a huge shock to me. I talked to my cousins last night in Houston, and I was telling them about this situation. They were just nodding, and I thought, "Nobody is that unbelievable." They replied, "Yeah, duh, you know we went to Second Baptist; we knew that."

What is so striking, and what I want the substance of tonight to be about, is how so many other people have changed in different ways. This is a thing that nobody ever acknowledges—or at least, not enough—and that I don't acknowledge to myself enough. If you're like me and you've been paying attention over the last several years, you might be wondering, "What is this?" This is not politics; clearly, this is just evil. Let's just be honest: there is no reason for this.

Americans are so patriotic and nice, always on the side of the little guy and the underdog. You can absolutely gin up support for any kind of foreign conflict if you tell people, "We're on the side of good against the forces of evil." Once again, they are leveraging, as they are with immigration, your best instincts—your decency, your humanity, your compassion—and using them against you.

You're a good person, by the way. Texas has had immigrants since it was a land grant state, and they've been great for Texas. I would say there's no more pro-immigration state than Texas, and for good reason: immigrants have been great for Texas. However, when they open your border and just wreck your state with immigration, it took Texans a little longer to figure out what was going on. They thought, "No, we're good people; we're welcoming people."

The same is true with foreign conflicts. Of course, we're on the side of the little guy against fascists or whatever. What you don't realize is that the immigration they are promoting now—this open borders immigration—its only purpose is to destroy your country. That's the point; it's not a feature, that's what it's for. It's an act of punishment, an act of humiliation. They are trying to destroy the country because they hate it. Now, why do they hate it? That's a whole separate question. I'm not a theologian, but it's clear that they do.

Regarding the war question, sending a hundred billion or four hundred billion dollars to a country only to see its entire male population killed is not fighting for freedom; that's killing people, actually. The fact that you're getting rich in the process is really evil.

Things are getting flaky around the world when prices change unexpectedly. Prices tend to change unexpectedly because something has happened to global supply chains. All of a sudden, you notice the price of ammunition goes up, or you can't find common rounds—where's all the rimfire? It's just gone. If the current occupants of the White House want to pretend the economy is doing well, they can release oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and we'll get a few weeks of lower gas prices.

Many common medications—life-saving medications—are also susceptible to these forces. Today, in September of 2024, nearly 30 states are reporting very high levels of the COVID virus. As we've seen, what that actually means about individual health is kind of irrelevant. Government posturing can and does lead to stockpiling health supplies and then rising prices. So, you're downstream; all of us are downstream from all of that, from reckless policymakers.

What can you do to protect your family? Well, obviously, you want to be sure that, in addition to everything else you've set aside, you have life-saving medications you might need if there were some bigger disruption. You want to buy them now at a decent, reasonable price, but how do you do that? It's hard; who knows where to begin?

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In a broader context, it has taken good people a long time to figure out what is truly going on in the world. Many have been led to believe that they should social distance or take the VX because they love their grandmothers. While I love my grandmother and would do anything for her, the realization has emerged that this situation is not genuinely about caring for our loved ones. In fact, it has become evident that evil exists in the world, which can be shocking to many, including myself.

What is even more surprising is the existence of good in the world, which is often overlooked. This goodness is just as real and significant as evil. For the past 80 years, Americans have been trained in a secular society to interpret everything through the lens of evolutionary biology. We have been taught that individuals act in their self-interest to pass on their genes, similar to all animals. However, the idea that one would hurt someone for the sake of hurting them, or that one would do good for the sake of doing good, does not fit into this template.

There seems to be no advantage derived from empathy, selflessness, altruism, or deep compassion if it does not contribute to genetic propagation. Yet, people still act out of goodness, suggesting that good exists in the universe as an independent force, just as evil does. This goodness is beautiful and pervasive, and we can observe it all around us.

Despite the presence of individuals who have become masks of hate and derangement, proclaiming nonsensical ideas like "moderation is extremism" and "love is hate," we can find solace in the relationships that truly matter. If we take stock of our lives, focusing on the people that God has placed around us—beginning with our spouses, extending to our children, relatives, college roommates, co-workers, and neighbors—we will discover that our relationships with them are deeper, richer, and more honest than ever before.

In my own life, despite losing many friends and acquaintances—largely due to my perceived extremism—the relationships I have with those who remain are incredibly rewarding. I no longer engage in shallow conversations, which I used to enjoy, such as discussing the weather. Instead, I find that people are now more profound and aware of the spiritual war that surrounds us. This shift is wonderful because it reveals that for every person who has decayed inside and succumbed to dark forces, there are many more who are becoming bigger, more open, and more aware of what connects us all as human beings.

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The friendships that I've gained since then are so much more rewarding and rich than they ever were. I don't even have shallow conversations anymore, and I love shallow conversations. For context, I'm from San Diego County, so I can still talk about the weather; it is 74 with broken cloud cover—it's incredible! However, people are now saying, "No, there's a spiritual war." It seems that people have become so deep all of a sudden, and it's just so wonderful.

What this shows is that for every person who has decayed inside and been captured by dark forces—which is a lot of people, most of whom seem to live in Washington—there are so many more people who become bigger, more open, and more aware of what connects all of us as human beings. All of us, as children of God, are so much more connected, so much more selfless, and so much more willing to lay down their lives for other people. I see that all the time, and it blows my mind.

Why does it blow my mind? Because it's not natural. There’s no imperative in nature that you lay down your life for another person; in fact, it's the opposite. So, it's not natural; it's supernatural. It is the definition of supernatural, and it's just the greatest blessing I've ever received and been privileged to see. I'm recognizing that all around me, things are changing really, really fast.

To prove that, we snuck in a guest tonight that we weren't planning to have. I was just brooding about this the other day, thinking about an amazing experience I had this summer with a woman called Nicole Shanahan. All I knew about Nicole Shanahan was what I had read on Twitter based on New York Times stories. I should have known that she is someone who has been the subject of many New York Times stories, which may not be fully accurate. However, the outline of the Nicole Shanahan story was one I thought I understood pretty well.

She’s from California, like me, originally from the Bay Area. I knew she had been married to Sergey Brin, who is one of the founders and biggest shareholders of Google. I believe he is truly a force for dark in this world; he's one of the reasons that we're not allowed to be treated as human beings and are censored constantly. Nicole is an affluent lady from California, and she looked kind of liberal to me. I admit, I tend to judge on that subject. I thought, "Okay," and then I learned she was running with Bobby Kennedy, whom I love, but I didn’t know anything about it.

Then, I received a call from someone who works for Nicole Shanahan, and they said she would like to meet me. I said, "Okay," because I meet anybody; you want to be open-minded and be surprised by people. I have rarely been as surprised by anyone in my whole life as I was by Nicole Shanahan. She turned out to be one of the deepest, smartest, and totally real people I think I’d ever met.

She was that way because, in all the people you meet—or everyone I've ever met who is truly deep—they have had pretty much the same story. They changed; they were forced to change. Something happened in their life that required them to look inside and ask the basic questions: What do I believe? Why am I doing this? Should I be doing this? Is this right or wrong? What is right or wrong? We can float through life without asking those questions, but sometimes we are forced to answer them.

Nicole was forced to answer them and changed in such an extraordinary way that I wanted to introduce her to those of you who haven't met her and are aware of her. I'm going to begin this by playing you a video that she made. I was just talking to her; she’s made a bunch of videos.

Bottom line, just to end a very long story on an abrupt note: She is now campaigning for Donald Trump for president. I plan to ask her when she comes out, "Of all the things you never thought you'd be doing, that had to be number one, right? That and being like Queen of England or something."

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Nicole Shanahan!

That is so good! What the hell was that? Thank you! So, I got to ask the question that I posed before you even arrived. If I had asked you at a dinner party in San Francisco five years ago, "Do you think you'd be in Sugarland, Texas, campaigning for Donald Trump?"

"Well, hi Texas! I am so happy to be here, and I have a special gift from the Maha peoples to the MAA peoples. Can you read what that says? Make America healthy again!

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Never thought you'd be doing that—that had to be number one, right? That and being like Queen of England or something. It's like what ladies and gentlemen, Nicole Shanahan.

The music plays, and the atmosphere is lively. "That is so good! What the hell was that?" Nicole responds with gratitude, "Um, thank you, thank you."

The interviewer continues, "So I got to ask the question that I posed before you even arrived. If I had asked you at a dinner party in San Francisco five years ago, do you think you'd be in, say, Sugarland, Texas, campaigning for Donald Trump?"

"Well, hi Texas! I am so happy to be here, and I have a special gift from the Maha peoples to the MAA peoples. Can you read what that says? Make America healthy again. And check out the back: Unity."

The conversation shifts to Nicole's story. "What I think is so cool and interesting about your story and your honesty is that, you know, at a time when people feel in their gut that something is not right with the leadership of the country, you actually can say, you know, I've sort of been there. I've been around a lot of the people who are making these decisions. So, I’d just be really interested in taking a minute to hear your story. What convinced you that you should change your mind on some things? Like, how did you get here?"

"Yeah, I'm from Oakland, California. I spent my life thinking that Democrats were good people and Republicans were bad people. It's what was taught to me in the school system. You know, I went out to Crossfire as a teenager; I was always interested in politics. I went out to the fabled CNN program hosted by a very handsome man in a bow tie, right? And I almost wore a bow tie tonight in celebration. I was out there to see James Carville debate you."

"And you know, I have to tell you, the programming is so strong on the left. They earnestly believe what's being sold to them right now. I came to this because I made that Trump derangement syndrome ad for me. I made it for me and I made it for all the people I know who are suffering from the lies the media is telling them. It’s an offering to this country to unify, get over this BS, and see what's actually happening here."

"I came to this because, you know, there are two things that change people: grief and God, and it's usually grief that comes first. My grief was really that I always wanted to be a mother. More than anything, I wanted to be a mother. I wanted to be a lawyer too, but I got that out of the way; I was always very smart. But being a mother turned out to be a very convoluted experience in this country right now. If you're a liberal woman, you're told, 'Go harvest your eggs and freeze them.' They tell you that now really early on."

Nicole reflects on her journey, "So I went through the process, and during that time, I realized a number of things. I walked away with an understanding that science is also not what they're telling us today. There’s this corporate world that, in the case of IVF, runs the IVF clinics, and the science of IVF is actually not based in well-researched, well-documented foundational science. It works; it was discovered out of cancer research dollars. But if you actually look at the investment in women's health, it's not there. Ovarian function is arguably the least studied organ in the body, yet it’s the most important. None of us would be here without it."

"And so I started to fund the science. That’s when I first came across transhumanism. Transhumanism is very real; it's this idea that technology can replace human function. I put 100 million dollars in to understand how to make and keep healthy women healthy. But all these transhumanists—what a novel idea!—let's keep women healthy so that we can have healthy babies. It’s the most important thing in the world."

"However, the transhumanists wanted to build artificial wombs with these grants. They wanted to study IVG, which is creating gametes out of human stem cells just from your skin. There’s a company called Conception that actually just had mice give birth to five pups with two male donors. So, you know, I see all of this stuff daily in Silicon Valley, and it made me question, you know, if we are at a time in human...

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Transhumanism raises critical questions about our future and the ethics of technology, challenging us to rethink what progress truly means.

Transhumanists, all these transhumanists—what a novel idea! Let's keep women healthy so that we can have healthy babies; it's the most important thing in the world. However, the transhumanists wanted to build artificial wombs with these grants. They aimed to study IVG, which is creating gametes (eggs) out of human stem cells, just from your skin. There's a company called Conception that actually just had mice give birth to five pups with two male donors. So, you know, it's very real transhumanism. I’m in Silicon Valley, I’m in tech; I see all of this stuff daily. It made me question if we are at a time in human history where we have to pause to really think about where this is all going.

I was slowly being labeled anti-science as a result of that. Then the pandemic hit, and like many of us, the science didn’t check out; it didn’t reconcile. I met Bobby Kennedy, who bravely left the Democratic Party—something that is really hard for a lot of us to do. In his case, it was literally part of his genetics; in my case, it was my upbringing and my programming. How I was raised made leaving the Democratic Party to run as a third party seem like a healthy thing to do. I wasn’t becoming a Republican—God forbid!

That experience made me realize how bad things are in this country. Republicans have out-raised Democrats in terms of fundraising by about four to one, but they don’t spend any of that money taking out third-party candidates. Democrats do. The amount of money they spend on undermining the things that make democracy work is something I could have never imagined. They hide it very well from the Democratic Party base. I feel it is upon us to really tell the Democratic base what is going on. They’re not bad people, but they are being told lies. They want to separate us, and it’s not right.

So, you leave the Democratic Party, you go with Bobby Kennedy, you run independent, and you see the party that you spent your life in doing things you didn’t know it was doing. At the same time, you’re being called anti-science for following the science—a familiar experience, I think, to most people here. But from there, it’s still a huge leap in the mind of every sort of college-educated, affluent person I’ve ever met in California, which is a lot, to be making an ad like that. I don’t think it is such a jump. We’re not glorifying Trump, but what we are trying to do right now is break through to individuals that have been programmed to see Donald Trump as a criminal. I wouldn’t actually know how to make an ad glorifying Trump, but what I can make is an honest ad about the fact that we’ve been lied to about him.

Can I just ask you one more question about transhumanism? I wish we could have three hours to talk about this because I sense so much. I sense it’s the shape of the future, and I sense it’s maybe the scariest thing that most people don’t know enough about. How common are the views you described—the horrifying, Frankenstein-like views—among Democratic donors and elites? It’s pretty ubiquitous in the sense that many view it in the same light as vaccines. There are entire platforms dedicated to basically mass printing vaccines, where you put a virus in and they print it into any disease format. mRNA is a vehicle to deliver it, and they think that this is a massive success. Vaccine injuries in this country have been vastly underreported.

I also believe that behind it is this corporatist ideal among the Democratic elites, which they see as the only way towards progress. That is a dead lie. We have so much science we could be doing. If you want to hear my real take on transhumanism, I do actually because I feel like we’re getting really close to something important—really important. I’m a lover of philosophy, and I read a very important thing that made me understand transhumanism, written by philosopher Peter Kingsley.

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Transhumanism reflects a deep fear of death, revealing our struggle with justice and the eternal truths that reside within us.

The discussion begins with the concept of mRNA as a vehicle to deliver information related to diseases. There is a belief that this represents a massive success; however, it is noted that vaccine injuries in this country have been vastly underreported. The speaker expresses a concern that behind this issue lies a corporatist ideal among the Democratic elites, suggesting that this is perceived as the only path toward progress. The speaker argues that this notion is a dead lie, emphasizing that there is so much science we could be doing.

Transitioning to the topic of transhumanism, the speaker shares a personal experience that deepened their understanding of this concept. They reference a philosopher, Peter Kingsley, whose work moved them to tears while reflecting on the nature of justice. The speaker recalls feeling profound sadness, questioning, "where is Justice in this world?" This contemplation leads to a discussion of ancient Greek beliefs, where Justice is personified as a goddess encountered at the gates of the underworld. In this context, Justice determines one's fate in the afterlife, akin to purgatory as described in the Bible. The speaker highlights that Lady Justice is not someone you can lie or hide your misdeeds from, which evokes a sense of cosmic justice that may not be present in the current world.

The speaker posits that the fear of death is a driving force behind transhumanism. They suggest that people who are afraid to die are the ones who resist facing Lady Justice. This idea is further explored through reflections on the COVID-19 pandemic, where individuals were forced to confront their mortality. The speaker notes that those who viewed death as "not the worst thing" found joy during the pandemic, while those who feared death were the ones enforcing restrictions like mask mandates.

In a shift to a more practical topic, the speaker introduces Pure Talk, a cell phone service provider that offers plans without the need for unlimited data. They argue that most people do not require unlimited data and should not be forced to pay for it. Pure Talk is presented as a solution, offering talk, text, and 5 gigs of data for just $25 a month. The speaker emphasizes the savings, stating that the average family saves almost a grand a year by switching to Pure Talk, which is described as America's most dependable 5G network.

The conversation then returns to the philosophical realm, where the speaker agrees with the notion that eternal truths reside within us. They acknowledge that while one can run from these truths, they are an inherent part of being human. The discussion leads to the question of how God factors into this understanding. The speaker reflects on their own suffering, which has shaped their perspective on God. They conclude that we are all put on this planet to learn things and see things from a unique perspective, suggesting that personal experiences contribute to a broader understanding of existence and spirituality.

=> 00:42:24

True connection often emerges from shared struggles, revealing the strength in vulnerability and the hope for unity.

Tucker encourages you to switch your cell phone service to a company you can be proud to do business with, emphasizing that you should only buy what you need. He agrees wholeheartedly with the sentiment that you can run from eternal truths, but they reside within you. On an animal level, we all know that it's all real.

In discussing the topic of suffering, Tucker asks how this has brought about an understanding of God. The guest reflects on her experience, stating, I think that we are all put on this planet to learn things and see things in a very unique perspective. She describes her previous life in Silicon Valley as very comfortable, where she was an early AI developer and a "techno-optimist." However, her grief became a lonely period, as no one around her could be trusted with the notion that perhaps the shot caused an adverse reaction. This was a noggo for progressives, and discussing these matters within those communities was not an option.

The combination of loneliness and the timing during COVID led her to a place of utter destruction, where she felt completely alone in her process. She mentions, we don't have to talk about my ex-husband, but finds it therapeutic to share her experience. Coming out of that situation, completely alone with a child that you feel helpless to help, can lead one to become either a total hermit or a warrior.

Tucker then poses a final question about how she thinks this period will end and whether she feels hopeful. She responds, I’m hopeful because of you, Andy. I’m hopeful because I believe God is here. She expresses her belief that this country wants to heal right now more than anything, and that unity is possible. She also acknowledges Donald Trump, stating that minus some of his imperfections, he is a guy who wants to take us along with him.

As the audience applauds, Tucker reflects on the beauty of the moment, remarking on how shocked we are by how much we have in common with people we didn't think we had anything in common with at all. He notes that this realization is happening all around us, where people are deciding that these categories are fake and are committed to telling the truth no matter what. This movement gives him heart and hope.

With that in mind, Tucker introduces the second guest of the evening, Jesse Kelly, whom he describes as one of the most impressive voices in the conversation—one of the smartest, toughest, most interesting, and original thinkers. Jesse, who lives in Texas, is recognized as a fearless person with a national presence.

As Jesse joins Tucker, he humorously comments on his embarrassing European-style slippers compared to Tucker's ostrich skin boots, expressing how he has never felt more emasculated. Despite this, he pushes through the moment, sharing that he doesn't know how to dress himself and that fashion does not make sense to him. He recounts how his wife simplified things by buying him one nice pair of boots, which is the only nice footwear he possesses.

=> 00:47:56

When institutions crumble, the fight for truth becomes a battle against fear and corruption.

With slippers on and you're wearing ostrich skin boots, I have never felt more emasculated than I do now. However, I'm determined to push through it. All my cousins are wearing those boots, and one of them just asked me, "Do you have any boots?" I replied, "Yeah, but I'm on the road, so I'm wearing my little slippers." Anyway, thank you so much for this opportunity.

Now, listen, I need to explain something before we get into the discussion. I don’t know how to dress myself. I can't grasp fashion; it makes sense to some people, but not to me. They tell me I'm supposed to match, and when I walk out in something that matches, my wife asks, "Is that what you're wearing? Are you planning on wearing that?" I respond, "They're both blue, right?" To simplify things, she decided to buy me one nice pair of boots—it's the only nice pair I own. Now, whenever I'm coming to do something important, like talking to Tucker Carlson and others, I put on my freaking boots.

I think you're crushing it! I would never know you got dressed in the dark. You have a very sensible wife. So, where do you think we are right now? Since you have a Daily Show, you follow the news daily. Where are we right now in the presidential race? What’s the truth of it?

Well, the truth is that they tried to murder Donald Trump twice because they think he's winning. They wouldn't do that if they thought he was losing. That's such a good point. What we have in this country right now is something I call "the system." But that's just a term I came up with; people call it the regime or whatever they want. Nations are built on their institutions—your media institutions, your religious institutions, your government institutions. These institutions determine the direction of your country. If institutions are good, your country will be good because they produce other people. It's not about one person.

Our institutions have been poisoned—poisoned for decades by what I refer to as "communist filth," and now they've taken over all the institutions. I like to use the phrase "communist filth"; it doesn’t leave much to the imagination. Well, that's what these people are. They are vile, they are evil, they are demonic. Before I continue with my thoughts on institutions, I want to make sure you understand something: you're the good guy; they are the bad guys. You are standing for things that matter. Look behind you right now—God is there, family is there. We are fighting against demons, and therefore we must fight like we have to win because they cannot win. They cannot ever be allowed to win. Be clear about that.

Once the institutions got completely taken over by communist filth, we ran God out of the country and allowed these people to educate our children. We naively sent children off to government schools for years, thinking they were learning their ABCs, when in reality, they were learning to hate America. "America sucks; it's evil." You send your kid to kindergarten, and now he comes home talking about how we genocided the Native Americans. It's crazy!

We've managed to poison all of these institutions, and now we have a criminal enterprise running the country. Our government is a criminal enterprise, and criminal enterprises do what to protect themselves? Everyone has watched a movie or read a book about a criminal organization, like the mafia. What do they do when there's a threat? They kill. Corrupt systems kill. They tried to blow Donald Trump’s head off twice because he threatens that, and all of us threaten that. That's why they sent the FBI after school board moms and ran all the people out of the military who didn't want to get vaccinated.

The system is afraid, and they lash out and kill when they're afraid. What gives me hope is the fear—not because I'm for fear; I'm totally opposed to fear. But fear suggests they know that they're losing, and there’s not actually popular consent for this stuff. I honestly don't think, and maybe I'm deluding myself, that most Americans want what they're getting.

Do you think so? I think it depends on how we classify "most Americans." Are we talking about people who simply reside here or new ones that they've imported into the country? Because that's an important part. I wasn't trying to be glib; that's an important reason why the federal government has taken your money out of...

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Fear reveals weakness; when they push propaganda, they know they're losing control.

What gives me hope is the fear. Not because I'm for fear—I'm totally opposed to fear—but fear suggests they know that they're losing. There’s not actually popular consent for this stuff. I honestly don’t think, and maybe I’m deluding myself, that most Americans want what they’re getting.

Do you think so? I think it depends on how we classify "most Americans." Are we talking about people who simply reside here or new ones that they’ve imported into the country? That’s an important part, and it’s an important reason why the federal government has taken your money out of every single paycheck. They have flown and bused in foreigners into your country, paying for their housing while you can’t afford houses, and paying for their eggs while you can’t afford eggs. They take over your job at the factory for a fraction—for pennies on the dollar—of what you were working for. Then, they run ads on television telling you these people are so much more hardworking than the "dirt ball Americans" we just fired.

The propaganda would not be so heavy if they were comfortable in their position of power. The people think that these individuals are all-powerful right now, but they’re the furthest thing from it. Otherwise, they wouldn’t still be lying. They would just be showing up at your house in the middle of the night to shoot you in the face, like they did in the Soviet Union. They know they have to lie about every single thing, and they’re not even good at it. If you want to feel really great about something, we’re up against a bunch of tubby losers without girlfriends. We’re the Warriors here.

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I think that’s right. I think that’s why they’re trying to take your guns. There’s a video that came out of Kamala Harris today from some years ago in California. She’s standing right next to Gavin Newsom—I use the word Gavin Newsom as if he’s a human being that has not been verified—but whatever the kind of AI bot who’s the governor of California, she’s standing there and she said, “Just because you have a gun legally, and I think I’m quoting, in the sanctity of your own home, doesn’t mean we can’t come in when we want to check to see if you’re using it the way we want you to.”

So, of course, that is a violation of the Bill of Rights. That’s the definition of tyranny. I’ve got to think they’re so fixated on the gun question not because they’re against violence—they created violence in all of our cities, including your cities here in Texas—but because they don’t trust the population. I mean, is there any other explanation? No, they want to take your guns because they want to murder you, like every evil government in the history of mankind.

People can say that’s crazy, but open up a freaking history book. Governments will disarm you, and then they’ll murder you. They’ll disarm you, and then they’ll murder you. If you think that these—wait a second, that’s not on Wikipedia—that is not on Wikipedia. That’s not what I read at all. I thought they were disarming you because you might hurt yourself. Yeah, and you know, this is where you can think if you’re speaking to a normal person—like somebody who’s not politically involved—they watch kids, school, or the game on Sunday, and you start talking like this, they might look...

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Governments disarm citizens to control and oppress them, not to protect them.

The population is a topic of concern, and there seems to be a prevailing notion that there is no other explanation. They want to take your guns because they want to murder you, like every evil government in the history of mankind. People can say that this is crazy, but open up a freaking history book. Governments will disarm you and then they'll murder you. If you think that these actions are justified because they claim you might hurt yourself, that’s where the confusion lies.

When speaking to a normal person—someone who isn’t politically involved—they might look at you as if you’re crazy when you bring this up. They might think, “What are you talking about?” They see figures like Kamala Harris or Christopher Wray and may not recognize the danger because they don’t look like Stalin or Mao. However, I’m here to tell you something right now: these people are so sick that when kids are dead in a school, they will stand on the bodies of dead children, without an ounce of shame, to take your guns. This is not because they care about the lives lost; it’s because the dirty demons who want to hurt you lay awake at night dreaming about it. They are furious that they can’t, because we are the most armed freaking people on the planet. We have the guns, we have the ammo, and that’s why it matters.

I do think you’re onto something. They’ve figured out that they can’t give the game away in an obvious way. You can’t just show up in some Latin American military uniform and say, “It’s a coup, now obey.” Instead, they trot out a figure like Joe Biden, who appears to be just Grandpa, misremembering things and eating Jell-O. This façade worked for a while, but then he disappeared, raising the question: Where is he? Is he still president? We all know he never was the true president. The country is run by people like Susan Rice and other vile individuals behind the scenes who grew up worshiping Mao.

Joe Biden was never allowed to make a single decision; his role was merely a gift of the presidency. He gets a Presidential Library, and Dr. Jill can make half a million on the lecture circuit once they cart poor Joe off to the nursing home. That’s the only reason he was ever there at all. When they talk about guns, they trot out poor Joe, and his favorite line is, “While I was out hunting, you don’t need a 30-round magazine to kill deer.” However, the Second Amendment wasn’t to kill deer; it was to kill tyrants.

I find it chilling, but the most interesting fact from the debate was Kamala Harris admitting she has a gun. I’m as supportive of Second Amendment rights as anyone, possibly more than anyone I know, but I don’t think Kamala Harris should have a gun. Why does Kamala Harris have a gun? Where did she get it? What kind of gun is it? Why has no one in the media asked these questions? Can you imagine going to the range with her and putting a loaded gun in her hand? You know she’d be the one who turns around from the firing line.

Was it a straw purchase? Who gave Kamala Harris a gun? These commies are always trying to straddle a line, which is really Kamala’s specialty. When you’re an American Democrat today, it’s important to recognize that this is not the 1960s. If you’re a Democrat politician now, you’re a communist.

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Political leaders are stuck between their radical base and traditional voters, but the real issue lies in our complacency for sending ineffective representatives to Washington.

In the current political landscape, there is a notable tension among Democrat politicians. They are constantly trying to straddle a line that reflects their complex relationship with their voter base. For instance, Kamala Harris is often seen as a prime example of this balancing act. The question arises: who gave Kamala Harris a gun? This reflects a broader concern about the straw purchases and the implications of such actions.

Democrats today are not the same as they were in the past; the political climate has shifted significantly. If you identify as a Democrat politician now, you are often perceived as a communist. This perception creates a need to appeal to various segments of the electorate. For example, there are older, traditional Democrats—like the firefighter who has fought for this country—who may not align with Republicans but still love America. At the same time, these politicians must cater to a more radical base that includes groups like Black Lives Matter, Planned Parenthood, and the LGBTQ community.

The challenge lies in communicating a message that resonates with both groups. Politicians want to signal to their radical base that they are willing to enact significant changes—“I’m going to burn down America”—while simultaneously reassuring more conservative voters that they still respect the country. This duality creates a precarious tightrope walk for Democrats, as they try to avoid alarming traditional voters while still appealing to their more extreme base.

The discussion then shifts to Texas, where there are concerns about the state potentially turning blue. If this happens, there is a belief that “you’re going to jail, man, you’re on the list.” The thought of Texas becoming a Democratic stronghold is alarming to many, as it would mark a significant change in the state's character. Texas is often praised for its kindness and beauty, and losing that would be a tragedy.

The question of whether Texas is moving toward Democratic control ultimately rests with its people. While this may sound like a cliché, it is essential to recognize the current political dynamics. The Low T GOP—the Republicans in power—are often seen as ineffective, failing to stand up for their constituents. They tend to delay action, waiting for the next election cycle instead of addressing pressing issues.

This situation is not solely the fault of the politicians; it also reflects the responsibility of the voters. The state of Texas should already be taking proactive measures, like reorienting the Texas Rangers to protect citizens from federal overreach. However, the reality is that figures like John Cornyn represent the state in Washington, and many feel that the GOP is sending “putrid losers” to Congress from the reddest states.

In conclusion, the political landscape is fraught with challenges, and the need for effective leadership is more critical than ever. The current state of affairs calls for a reevaluation of both political strategies and voter engagement to ensure that the values and character of states like Texas are preserved.

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Complacency in safe states breeds complacent leaders; if we want change, we must engage locally and vote in primaries.

We should be doing better, but instead, we have John freaking Cornyn as a senator. This situation highlights a significant issue: we have a primary voter problem. The reddest states are sending the most putrid losers to Washington, D.C. Figures like John Thune, Mitch McConnell, and James Lankford of Oklahoma exemplify this problem.

To illustrate my point, I jokingly referred to Lankford as naked Kendall. If you've ever seen a naked Kendall, you would understand that there's nothing there. I’m not bragging; I’ve never taken off Kendall's pants, but believe me, that’s what you would find if you ever did. The crux of the matter is that we have this issue in red states. I moved to Texas on purpose, my wife and I brought our two kids, and I did so without a job because I love the people here. However, that niceness can also be our downfall.

Living in a safe neighborhood in a Republican state, we might think we are fine, but we are not. The demons come for what is good. If you've ever watched any of the troubling content aimed at children and wondered, “Why the kids? Why can't they just leave the kids alone?”, you are not alone. The reason they go after kids is that they are the most innocent and pure. Whatever is good, whatever is right, is what the devil targets first.

If you think your state of Texas is safe, it might actually be the most unsafe. Those who oppose our values see our families, our values, and our guns as reminders of everything they are not and everything that can stop them. Therefore, we must start getting more involved locally and in primaries. It is a disgrace that John Cornyn is a senator from this state, and that should never happen again.

This situation reflects a deeper analysis of our political landscape. It is the purity and the desire to defile that purity that drives them. They hate anything that is beautiful, sincere, or genuine. This is evident in how they destroy nature and put up wind farms on mountaintops.

To be completely honest, the single most left-wing member of Congress I have ever met personally is a Republican from this area who has no interest in the United States whatsoever and does not even pretend otherwise. I’m not going to name names, but I think we all know who I mean. This situation raises the question: how does this happen? It occurs because we do not engage enough.

This observation does not apply to the people in this room, as you are the hyper-informed. You may not realize how much more informed you are than your neighbor who wasn’t invited tonight. Your brother, your mom—they may be Republicans and support Trump, but ask them when the last time they voted in a school board election was. Ask them if they even voted in a primary election.

We often do not participate because we feel safe and comfortable. This issue is not unique to Texas; it happens everywhere, including Wyoming, which is known as the reddest state in the union. If you are a scumbag communist wanting to get elected in a place like Wyoming, you cannot run as a Democrat or a hard-left candidate. Instead, you put on cowboy boots, buy a shotgun, and learn how to speak the lingo. You watch a little Tucker Carlson to know what to say and how to deceive, and before you know it, you find yourself in a position of power, undermining those on the right time after time.

Our controlled opposition problem is so severe that it often feels like we are playing tug of war with Whoopi Goldberg. It just doesn’t feel like we can win.

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The political game is rigged; it's all about the money and power, not the principles.

Redate the union; it's not unique to Texas. These representatives, if you're a scumbag communist and you want to get elected in a place like Wyoming, you can't run as a Democrat. You can't run as a hard Lefty. Instead, you throw on some cowboy boots, buy a shotgun, and go out there to take a picture shooting at some pheasant. You learn how to speak the lingo a little bit, watch a little bit of Tucker Carlson, and now you know what to say and how to deceive. Exactly. You find yourself in a position of power, kneecapping people on the right time after time after time. Our controlled opposition problem is so bad, and that's why we always feel like we're playing tug of war with Whoopi Goldberg. It just doesn't feel like you can win.

It's so true. Wyoming is the most Republican state in the United States; with the exception of Teton County, every county is Republican. Yet, they elected Liz Cheney, who just endorsed Kamala Harris time and time again. I noticed something today that I wanted to ask you about. There’s this new list that Democrats are bragging about, featuring Republican National Security officials who have endorsed Kamala Harris. On the list are all the Bush and Cheney people, the architects of the Iraq War. But notably, on the list is the chairman of the 9/11 Commission, who was responsible for the 9/11 report and is now at the University of Virginia as a professor. This is a guy who I think probably should answer some questions. You wonder how much of the resistance to Trump—who's not a hardcore righty, but a fairly moderate guy—stems from fear that he might declassify documents that implicate the crimes of the most corrupt city in the hemisphere, which is DC. Do you think that's a driving motivating force?

I actually think you nailed it completely. I think it ties directly to foreign policy, actually Trump's foreign policy. For the longest time, Democrats and Republicans have had pretty much the same foreign policy. It's really a worship of the state; it's what it's always been. Ours has looked different than theirs, but we always trusted the FBI. I wanted to work for the FBI when I was a kid—oh my gosh, the FBI! I didn't know it was the Stasi, or at least it was turning that way. We had no idea about these things. Trump comes in, and like you mentioned, he's not some hardcore righty; he's a fairly moderate guy when you look at his views. However, he has a very different view on foreign policy.

When you think about foreign policy, consider Ukraine. It doesn't really matter what you think about that; the amount of taxpayer money that goes from the taxpayer into the government is staggering. The government writes gigantic checks of your money to the defense contractors, who get paid hugely to continue that war without end. The defense contractors also take that very same money and hand it right back to the politicians who stole it from you. Now, all this stuff seems to be working in a great cycle. When you tie in the finance giants, who have already promised big fat taxpayer-funded checks to rebuild when the whole thing's done, what you finally wake up and figure out is that the evil demons who run the country look at all of us like just one big tax farm. They do this so they can stay in power, so they can have their state dinners, and so all this stuff can work out.

That Bush-Cheney wing? They were the freaking worst about all that stuff. They were awful about it, and Trump challenging that is the reason they're trying to murder him so bad. Because that is the most money—follow the money, and there's your answer. I think you've got to be right. By the way, you served in the Marine Corps during that period; you did the patriotic thing. Now they hate you, but it just doesn't make any sense otherwise. Here you have Dick Cheney and Philip Zelikow, the guy who ran the 9/11 Commission, endorsing the administration that armed the Taliban. Like, that doesn't make any sense. If you were the leader of the war on terror, as Cheney was, or Philip Zelikow was, or Bob Gates was, you would hate the Taliban. That's what you told us. How could you possibly endorse the Biden-Harris administration, which just armed the Taliban? It's now the best-armed army in the region, thanks to the Biden-Harris administration, which you're now for. So, it actually wasn't about fighting a global war on terror; obviously, it's about keeping your crimes hidden, and you're worried that if Trump...

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Our leaders have lost their sense of duty, prioritizing their own interests over the sacrifices of those they send to fight.

During that period, the Marine Corps did the patriotic thing, but now they are met with disdain. It just doesn't make any sense. Here you have Dick Cheney and Philip Zelikow, the guy who ran the 9/11 Commission, endorsing the administration that armed the Taliban. If you were the leader of the war on terror, as Cheney or Zelikow were, you would hate the Taliban. That's what you told us. So, how could you possibly endorse the Biden-Harris Administration, which just armed the Taliban? It is now the best-armed army in the region, thanks to them, and you are now in favor of that.

It actually wasn't about fighting a global war on terror; obviously, it's about keeping your crimes hidden. You are worried that if Trump gets elected, he might just be crazy enough to declassify the documents that show what you've been doing for the last 25 years. I don't see any other explanation.

I agree with you, standing up and Trey that is right. What we are missing, and this happens to so many countries, is that when you get far enough away from your founding, the people who lead the country will lose a sense of duty to the country. It just becomes about them. I could point to America's history, the Battle of K, or any historians here, the Second Punic War with Hannibal. He fights the Romans and wipes out a Roman army. It's a fascinating story about the Roman army Hannibal wipes out in Italy. He takes out a huge chunk of the Roman Senate.

Wait a minute, Senators on the battlefield dying beside the peasants? Yes, that's how nations are supposed to operate. The elite don't live on private jets and in steakhouses. If there is a war to be fought, you pick up your sword and go die right next to the construction worker. But if you look at the end of Rome and where we are now, our leaders never go die, and their kids never go die.

You mentioned Republicans. Were you in the Marine Corps enlisted during the war on terror? Was Liz Cheney with you? I not only didn't see Liz Cheney with me, but I also didn't happen to see Mitt Romney or any one of his 57 kids. Mitt Romney, to this day, wants to invade every single place on the planet. Again, I'm fine with differences on foreign policy, but I know what it's like to sit there and watch some kid hug his dad on the tarmac and say, "Daddy, don't go, daddy, don't go," and to know that these scumbags in DC constantly send our men and women to go do this without an ounce of duty to send themselves or their kids along. It makes me freaking sick.

Because they don't have a sense of duty, we have gotten so far from where we are. Our leaders now are just a bunch of bank robbers looting the treasury instead of people who see themselves as what they should see themselves as: the knights protecting Western Civilization. That's why they've sent the FBI after so many American citizens. They have slowly turned their guns inward because now, when these people wake up in the morning and when they go to sleep at night, they think the enemy is you. They don't stress about China, they don't stress about Russia, they don't stress about terror, and they certainly don't stress about the newest rapist dirtball that they hauled into this country across the border. They don't care about your cat that got eaten in Ohio; they don't care about any of that stuff. They wake up and think about you—you with your rights, your freedom of speech, and your love for guns. You are probably going to hold them to account if they continue to take a steaming dump on the country.

That's why they flooded this country with illegals and sent the FBI after school board mobs. Just to be clear, for the record, I don't think I was joking before. I don't think Wikipedia is the final word on history. I just don't think that your cat really did get eaten in Ohio, did it?

Well, Tucker, look, I'm an American, and I don't own a cat. I own a dog. What? No, no, I would never own a cat. You see, if you're wondering why I'm such a messed-up human being, I have a lot of unrecognized child trauma that involved my cat getting run over by a school bus right in front of me. After that, my dad wasn't that nice about it.

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Don't let fear hold you back; the darkness is more afraid of the light than you are. Stand up, speak out, and reclaim your power.

That's why they flooded this country with illegals and that's why they sent the FBI after Schoolboard mobs. So, just to be clear, like for the record, because I don't think I was joking before, I don't think Wikipedia is the final word on history. I just don't think that your cat really did get eaten in Ohio, did it?

Well, Tucker, look, I'm an American and I don't own a cat. All right? I own a dog. What? No, no, I would never own a cat. You see, if you're wondering why I'm such a messed-up human being, I have a lot of unrecognized child trauma that involved my cat getting run over by a school bus right in front of me. After that, my dad wasn't that nice about it, and I decided I didn't want any more cats.

Fair enough, but getting run over by a school bus is qualitatively different than being eaten by an illegal alien. I do think that both are traumatic, but one is more traumatic than the other. I guess it all depends on which part he's eating.

Good point. So we began the evening on purpose because I feel so overwhelmed with sadness by everything that's happening to the country that we love, the country we were born in, and the country our ancestors built over many years with great effort, determination, and foresight. They planted trees they would never see grow, doing things that they would never benefit from, but they knew that their grandchildren would, and they did them. That’s the most virtuous kind of behavior, in my opinion.

So, it's so sad to watch all this, and I wanted to start on a note of hope, which I think is real. Do you feel any hope, and if so, why? Oh, we're going to win. We're going to win. I know that you're afraid; I get afraid. I know you're sad; I'm sad. I love this place; I would die for it. It hurts watching these people tear it up. I know it hurts, but I'm here to tell you something: they're more afraid than you are.

They're afraid we're going to wake up. They're afraid we're going to get involved. They're afraid we're going to go to their little forms of power at the local library, Congress, or School Board, wherever it is, and take their power away from them. They're afraid of you speaking the way you want to speak on social media. They're afraid of the fact that your guns—the demons are more afraid of you than you are of them. The darkness is afraid of the light; the light does not fear the darkness.

And they should be afraid. I want to make sure I'm very crystal clear about that. You can clip it all day long, you commi scumbags; come knock on my freaking door. They should be afraid because, as I mentioned in the beginning, they are wrong. They are evil. What they want is awful for this country. What you want is wonderful and good. We want a country surrounded by family and community, a country led by God and decent people. We want to be led by people who are better than what we have now, and if we stand up—and I see it happening everywhere—we can have that.

It is time to stop being afraid like you are and like I am, and it is time to start making them afraid. Good guys don't get afraid; they need to be the ones that are afraid of us. We can do that. There's a new sheriff in town, ladies and gentlemen—Jesse Kelly. Thank you.

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